8:00am

Shuttles from Sheraton

8:15am

Coffee and Danish

8:30am

Start! [105 minutes]

Agenda check, people introductions, and site reports from all the sites -- CMU, Cornell, MIT, Stanford and UMich.

10:15am

Take a break!

10:30am

Relationships with Commercial Partners [60 minutes]

Microsoft, Sun, Apple, others, ...

NT 5.0. Kerberos v5 interoperbility issues. Directory services. Impact on the GINAs that some sites have been using? Are people using NDS to manage NT workstations? What deals are being cut with MS? What has MS been doing with academic departments on campus that is having an effect on IS?

I know that most of our sites have some sort of relationship with Microsoft for selling MS products on campus. Some have been part of the MS Select plan. Can anyone describe the administrative process for tracking the licenses purchased under these plans? Do you distribute any of the software via a network? Do you distribute to students?

Solaris has announced basically free source code for educational institutions. Who's in, what are you going to do with it when you get it, and how can we best leverage this?

11:30am

Campus Networking [60 minutes]

LAN Connectivity (Current State, Next Generation, ATM versus Fast/Gigabit Ethernet), Backbones, Internet (Production Connectivity, Internet 2 Developments, Gigapop Developments), Remote Access (Modems, ISDN, xDSL, Cable Modems), Monitoring & Management (Network Monitoring Tools, Developments in NetFlow Deployment of Multicast and Multimedia, Quality of Service Developments), ...

12:30pm

Lunch [Deli sandwishes, catered in]

1:30pm

Authentication, Authorization and Accounting - Part 1 [90 minutes]

Some of us are looking at the NT AFS client from Transarc, some have already licensed it. I've heard that people are also looking at Novell's NSS. UMich has done some work with a Kerberized SAMBA server and client. Others have been looking at NFS futures. Has anyone made any progress at moving away from AFS? If we deploy the Transarc NT AFS client do we have any idea what the impact will be on our servers?

Some of us are looking at the NT AFS client from Transarc, some have already licensed it. I've heard that people are also looking at Novell's NSS. UMich has done some work with a Kerberized SAMBA server and client. Others have been looking at NFS futures. Has anyone made any progress at moving away from AFS? If we deploy the Transarc NT AFS client do we have any idea what the impact will be on our servers?

The issue of single login may be one you want to explicitly raise during the kerb/authentication section. Given the fact that most of the schools are in deep in admin systems upgrades (UM and Cornell with P'Soft, MIT is doing SAP; I can't remember what Stanford is doing altho I think it is Oracle financials; and I don't know what CMU is doing), the strategies for dealing with different authen systems without going crazy may be useful to talk about.

3:00pm

Take a break!

3:15pm

Authentication, Authorization and Accounting - Part 2 [45 minutes]

Our faculty is pressing for archiving student work and making that a resource for the future. When I asked about protecting the copyright the students have in their own work (i.e., who is getting the releases), I was told that there was a librarian involved, so those issues didn't matter. Somehow, I really doubt that anyone has thought about this.

For that matter, what happens when a student violates copyright on the web, and a publisher comes after them? I'd be willing to bet that the university will get dragged in somehow (after all, we provide the space, the facilities, etc.)

4:00pm

xylan demo [15 minutes]

Andy Adamson says, "Just a note to say that xylan will give a demo of their authenticated drop in connection software and their switch at 4:00 on the 24th in the citilab directly outside of the conference room. i'll open the door between the lab and the conference room durring the cartel meetings."

4:15pm

Printing [45 minutes]

I know some non-cartel sites are using the Kerberized version of lpr and using wlprspl with MIT's kwlpr2.dll on WFWG / Win95. Someone sent me mail asking about our klpr for NT saying that they had seen it demoed at Duke. The problem is we didn't write one. Has any done authenticated printing for NT? Is anyone using lpng?

6:15pm

Dinner [Arbor Brewing Company]

The Arbor Brewing Company is a local microbrewery at 114 East Washington Street, about 6 blocks from the meeting room at CITI. We've booked room for 35 people starting at 6:15pm, dinner will be buffet style.

9:00pm

Shuttles to Sheraton

Day 2 Agenda