School / Ecole
GERSENDE - 07:52am Oct 12, 2004
La vision du mot "école" pour les étudiants américains signifie apprentissage et travail. L'école est un lieu où l'éducation prend beaucoup de place contrairement à la France où l'éducation se fait surtout par les parents et la famille. Je pense que les étudiants français , tout comme les étudiants américains sont conscients que l'école est une institution où l'on apprend de nombreuses choses et qu'on ne peut pas la négliger si l'on recherche la réussite sociale et professionnelle. Quelles autres différences ?
Evans - 01:18pm Oct 17, 2004
Just a quick question...what does "assas" mean?
Aparna - 04:36am Oct 18, 2004
I also noticed that both French and American students associate school with work, but also see it as a place where they can meet friends and socialize. I thought it was interesting that some Americans associate choice and fun with school whereas the French primarily thought of discipline. I also noticed that there were more words about the future and ambition in the french column. French students seem to view school as a good preparation for the future.
GERSENDE - 08:04am Oct 19, 2004
Hello, ASSAS est le nom de la rue dans laquelle se trouve l'université Paris II. Je suppose que les américains, tout comme les français, considèrent l'université comme la préparation du métier qu'ils feront ?
Pierre - 09:22am Oct 19, 2004
J'aimerais ajouter que pour tous l'école est aussi un lieu d'épanouissement social. C'est tout au long de notre scolarité que nous nous forgeons un caractère. Alors des connaissances constructives pour notre avenir, une vie sociale mouvementée et des amis... pourquoi les jeunes ne veulent pas aller à l'école (en même temps je les comprends)
patricia - 09:33am Oct 19, 2004
pour répondre à Aparna Rao, ne vois tu pas aussi l'école comme une bonne préparation pour le futur? Ne penses tu pas que ce que tu étudies conditionnera en quelque sorte l'homme ou la femme que nous seront plus tard?
Edgar - 09:50pm Oct 20, 2004
In response to most of the students of Paris II: yes, it is safe to assume that to Americans, school is the way to success. And to Patricia, yes, I do agree that school shapes up what kind of person you are in the future. On that point of view, it is a mixed bag with Americans. For example, some just "want their college degree so that they can work" and they seek very little or no personal fulfillment. Then there are those that are just trying to become better individuals by expanding their knowledge. However, no matter what their frame of mind is, to an American a college education will ultimately mean a way to pay their bills.
Aparna - 08:07pm Oct 25, 2004
In response to Patricia, I agree with Edgar that although both French and American students see school as preparation for the future, their individual perceptions differ. The French seem to value the knowledge and enrichment gained from an education whereas Americans are more career focused.
Aparna - 08:43pm Oct 25, 2004
The vast majority of Americans see college as more important now than it was in the past. According to a Public Agenda trend analysis from 1993-2003, parents of high school students are becoming increasingly worried about the cost of college. Is college cost high in France?
Brian - 09:58pm Oct 25, 2004
I'm under the impression that college is free. Many colleges in France actually pay stipends to their students in addition to providing education free of charge. Health care's all set too. It's one of those great European things that would take a lot of change to implement here.
Pierre - 10:38am Oct 29, 2004
Yes college is affordable to everybody. If you can pay (you or your family can afford it) you pay about 200 to 500 $. But if you can't the government will grant you a scholarship. Pardon j'ai oublié qu'il fallait parler français. Oui ce système nous permet à tous, après obtention du baccalauréat, d'accéder à l'enseignement supérieur. Les différences sont ainsi gommés. Aux USA je crois que cet accès à l'enseignement supérieur est plus difficile pour les classes les plus pauvres. Qu'en est-il exactment?
Frances - 07:04pm Nov 1, 2004
In response to your comment, Pierre, I think that it's true that pooer students have a harder time getting higher education in the US. For people I remember talking to in my home town, they would not apply to more well known universities because they said that they couldn't afford it. Many colleges nowadays give grants or significant financial aid to students whose families may not make enough to pay the full cost of college, but if these poorer students aren't aware of it or even with grants can't afford the rests, then often they go to community colleges or technical schools in order to get post-high school education. Another thing that I think happens is that these poorer students would prefer to get jobs to try to earn money rather than "wasting their time" in school. Depending on one's situation, I think it can be hard to see past the years in school to the benefits one receives as a result.
Brian - 09:24pm Nov 1, 2004
Pierre - You're right in the sense that it's difficult for poor families to send children to the very top level schools. Our government schools (state schools) are relatively cheap, and considering the fact that we pay fewer taxes makes it relatively affordable. Of course very few state schools are as good as our top level schools. We also have military schools that are entirely free, and of course there is government subsidy for people who cannot afford college. Usually it is not free, but even at colleges like Harvard, if students cannot afford it, they will be given money, loans, jobs, etc. In most cases, although it does cost money, if you want to go to college, although it takes quite an effort, you can probably make it work.