Cultura

School / Ecole

Votre Opinion sur l'école...
Posted by Pierre on February 17, 2004
4 grandes idées resortent de votre point de vue sur l'école Française.J'ai classé ses points en 4 catégories:
- travail
- Culture
- La vie à l'exterieur de l'école
- Le savoir

Pensez vous que ces catégories synthétisent bien vos idées ?

Mon graphique
Posted by Pierre on February 17, 2004

Que vous apporte l'école?
Posted by Ombeline on February 17, 2004
J’ai pue ressortir de vos réponses que pour vous l'école est un lieu de travail, et non un lieu ou l'on apprend et ou on élargie c'est connaissances.
L'école ou l'université est t'elle un endroit ou vous échanger vos connaissances et votre expériences?

Work & School
Posted by Alicia on February 19, 2004
"Work" or "homework" are definitely a big part of school and learning. I think that perhaps we take advantage of the fact that we learn in school, because it seems like something so obvious that we forget to mention. Work, on the other hand, makes a big impression because you remember the nights when you stay up lating doing homework. Thus, it is the first thing that pops into our heads when we think of school. However, college is definitely a place where you find the balance between learning, doing homework, and experiencing life. I think for us, an important part of college is meeting new people and experiencing new things.

School in France
Posted by Felipe on February 20, 2004
I'm curious about school in France. Do you wear a uniform? Is it competitive? I've heard that it's also very strict and that grades are made public so anyone can see them. Is that true?

An Addition to Work & School
Posted by Phil on February 20, 2004
One thing to keep in mind about our responses to "School" is that we are students at MIT, a university which is notorious for the vast quantities of homework the students receive. The responses would have likely been very different from students at other universities. One other thing is that for us, the words "work" and "homework" are completely interchangeable when used in the context of classes. Are "travail" and "devoir" interchangeable in the same way? I noticed that, in many of your responses, the two words show up next to each other, so I wasn't sure if they were synonyms or just related terms.

School in France
Posted by Ombeline on February 20, 2004
La plupart des écoles francaises n' ont pas d'uniformes, mais il existe encore quelques exceptions.
Pour arriver à avoir de bonnes écoles il faut avoir les meilleures notes possibles. C' est pour cette raison que la compétition entre les élèves existe mais uniquement au niveau des notes. A l'université il y a beaucoup moins de compétition car nous sommes nombreux. Mais par contre les notes sont visibles par tous pour simplifier l'administration : de plus le grand nombres d'etudiants fait que l'on ne regarde pas les notes de ses voisins. A l'inverse, au collége et au lycée, les notes son personnelles suivies d'appréciation des professeurs.

Et pour vous comment ça se passe au niveau des notes à l'université et au collège? y a t'il chez vous des uniformes ainsi qu'une compétition entre les élèves?

School in US
Posted by Jonathan on February 22, 2004
Most schools in the United States do not have uniforms. However, there are some schools that do; while a few of these are public government-funded schools, most of these are private or pariochal schools. What is the breakup like in France? Are all schools open to everyone? Are private schools supported by the government? How much schooling is mandatory?

Grades in US
Posted by Jonathan on February 22, 2004
In the US there is no standard way of giving grades. Generally, if you go to a better, academically-rigorous high school, it is more difficult to get high grades and in an easier HS (high school) it is easier. The same is true of colleges. Recently, there have been a few scandals concerning grade inflation in HS and colleges. At Harvard for instance it was found that more than half of grades given are A's. Generally, the amount of competition for grades changes depending on the school. In law school, med school, and in college for pre-med students the competition is very serious.

Competition
Posted by Phil on February 23, 2004
I've spent my life at schools which had very healthy competition. It was mostly competition with yourself to make sure that you do the best work you can. There was also some competition between people, but from what I could see, people were mostly using their peers as a gauge for their own progress. At MIT, the only reason I've seen someone refused help with homework or other problems was that they hadn't put in the effort beforehand. People help each other along a lot. However, at the same time, you could definitely see people's pride in their own successes and, in some cases, in others' failures.

Inter-high school and college
Posted by Katherine on February 23, 2004
Is it true that, in france, there is a period of learning between high school and what we know as college here? And, if there is, how well does it prep someone for college and university life?

uniforme
Posted by Clémence on February 24, 2004
En ce qui concerne l'uniforme, les écoles Françaises l'ont en majorité perdu, cependant, quelques écoles persistent encore: en effet j'y suis allée dans deux, et ça été une super expérience, on ne s'occupé plus de nos habits mais de nos cours. le gouvernement Français commence à revenire vers celui-ci, on se demande si l'uniforme n'est pas propice à de bons résultats! et vous, aux Etats Unis , avez vous des uniformes comme les jupes courtes, petit gilet et cravate????En ce qui concerne la compétiton, on la remarque plus en études supérieures, aprés le BAC, les étudiants font tous ce qui le peuvent pour se différencier , ils se renferment aux autres, n'aide en aucun cas leurs voisins!!!

"Qui a eu cette idée folle, un jour d'inventer l'école?..." (chanson)
Posted by gaelle on February 24, 2004
En France, les écoles privées sont soutenues par le gouvernement. Pour répondre aux questions de Katherine, il existe en effet ce que nous appelons des "classes préparatoires" qui prépare, comme leur nom l'indique, aux grandes écoles de commerce, de lettres, de dessin... Ces classes durent entre 1 et 2 ans mais ne préparent pas du tout à l'université, voire même pas du tout à la vie! Le niveau scolaire est souvent très élevé et demande un travail assidu. On peut d'ailleurs être très étonné en entendant un étudiant de prépa se réjouir d'avoir obtenu un 7 à un contrôle! Dans ce genre d'établissement, la concurrence peut s'avérer féroce car chacun vise une des meilleures places pour être reçu au concours.
J' ai entendu dire qu' aux USA, les universités, ou du moins les prestigieuses, étaient très chères. Ce phénomène ne provoque t-il pas alors une discrimination entre les individus de différents milieux sociaux avant même que les étudiants aient pu prouver leurs compétences?