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Antoine G- 04:04am Oct 12, 1998 (1.)
I've just finished to read the results for the word 'elite'
and I noticed that for the Americans, elite was considered as
snobbish, rich people who spent their time in country clubs, but
in France elite was only school and awards. That's interesting
because I know that MIT is the most famous engineering School
in the United States, and when you think about the word elite,
you don't think immediatly about your school. What do you think
about it? I'm waiting for your answers... PS: I personnaly agree
that elite doesn't have a positive aspect. Bye AntoiNou
That's a pretty interesting observation. I think most peopel
don't tend to think of their schools as "Elite" persay
because it has that negative connotation. When I personally think
of MIT I think of it more as a neat opportunity and school, but
not as something that isn't available to everyone(if they're willing
to work for it). As is seen in most of our associations, we value
freedom and equality here in America. I think our opinion of eliteness
and desire to avoid it as a description of ourselves is representative
of this.
think another reason why we don't tend don't to associate
the word "elite" with MIT and other universities is
because the people we think of as being part of the "elite"
didn't become part of it because of their education. they're usually
considered elite for other reasons.
Mon propos va aller dans le même sens que celui d' Antoine:
en français, "élite" fait plutôt
penser en premier lieu à une catégorie de gens intelligents
et pas forcément riches et snobs comme cela l' est pour
vous. Certes, pour certains français, le fait de faire
parti de l' élite de la Nation leur fait tourner la tête
et les rend snobs, mais heureusement ce n' est pas le cas de tous.
Par ailleurs, le mot "élite" nous fait penser
à "classes préparatoires aux grandes écoles"
car la plupart d' entre nous en sont issus (et sont bien contents
d' en être sortis!);pour nous c' est le passage privilégié
pour entrer dans ces écoles mais c' est un passage difficile
et douloureux! Et pour vous, comment cela se passe-t-il? Merci
pour vos réponses !
In the US, I don't think that people think of "elite"
in terms of schools, but usually in terms of fame or money or
success. So while going to a good university is often a means
to becoming elite, going to a good college is not itself considered
elite. I think this might be because there isn't as much competition
in the US for getting into colleges.
I think that your country is held to high regards. When dream
about visiting France, and we brag when we do. We think of the
Haute Coutuire, the wine, and cuisine as being elite. Do you see
the United States as an elite place? why or why not?
what is "foutaise" ?
Nisha, foutaise est un terme pejoratif qui signifie "n'importe
quoi", "betise". A+ Emilie
Salut est-ce que vous connaissez ce que sont les classes preparatoires?