Date: Mon, 3 Nov 1997 00:07:14 EST From: "a flat tire..." Subject: FILLER: Life with Multilogues (or, another paradigm for list chatter) [in which our hero spreads dusty words everywhere--over 2,000 of them--mostly about stuff that is just obvious to everyone...when they stop to think about it] First, before I say anything else, I want to thank all of you. Many of you have written privately, and some publicly, asking me to do something, making suggestions as to what I could do, or flaming me for not doing what you wanted me to do. The expression of trust behind all of those messages--that I would listen, that I wouldn't strike back, that I would be fair--that expression of trust humbles me. And I want to thank all of you for it. Next, I think, let me warn you. This message, as much as I have worked on it, is NOT the whole answer. Don't make the mistake of thinking that everything is wrapped up and tied in a package--there will be pieces that fall out in the future, as they have in the past. There will be new twists and turns. And we'll have to go back and climb these same old steps again from time to time with new customers...and smile nice at them, it will be their first time. I hope that this is just part of a neverending discussion, a route marker on that long march, not a dead end. [I don't suppose I really need to point out that what you think this message says when you read it may not be exactly the same as what I thought this message would say when I wrote it, do I? I mean, the thought in my head, the expected thoughts in my imagined audience, and the real thought in your head...all tied together with these puny words? let's get real, what are the chances that it all matches perfectly?] A short table of contents (with 2,000 plus words, you get a table of contents.) 1. The Multilogue 2. The Pile-On 3. Floods of Diversion, but not a response for me? 4. Who all is out there? 5. Where's the Goalposts? 6. A One-Note Symphony? 7. Two-thirds cooperation, one-fourth aggression, and some slop... 8. Some possible approaches to living with multilogues [if you're looking for the part about harassment, controversy, obscenity, censorship, safe words...sorry, but in cutting down the nine versions of this message and trimming over 5,000 words down to this, they didn't make it. Later this week, probably.] 1. The Multilogue [This isn't the Junior Chamber of Commerce.] I'm going to use a term which isn't very common...the multilogue. We're all familiar with the monologue and the dialogue, but the kind of communication environment that this kind of list provides is something else, even though it sometimes appears deceptively familiar. In the monologue, one person talks (and talks, and talks) while the rest merely listen. The central figure must make things interesting, or at least have sufficient power to make everyone listen. In the dialogue, there are two sides. One talks, then the other. One listens, then the other. If there is an audience, they merely listen. And there are often implicit assumptions about the outcome--if one wins, the other loses. Or, as many people play the game, if you lose, I win. However, I think lists like this can offer a different model of interaction--the multilogue. This involves multiple people with many different "sides" or "positions" or "interests." Like the monologue, the central figures need to rely heavily on keeping the exchanges interesting. It also seems unlikely that there is anything like the clear "win-lose" assumption of the dialogue possible. Indeed, the multilogue makes everyone a winner when it is positive and enriching, and everyone a loser when it is negative and sapping. One of the characteristics of taking part in a multilogue may be that it is like carrying a ladder in a crowd. If you go too fast, you'll clip someone ahead of you. If you go too slow or stop suddenly, you'll clobber the people behind you. And as for turning--you'll probably catch someone on both sides without even trying. Let me emphasize this because it's one of the points I keep tripping over, and I'm never sure how to deal with it. Around MIT, this is one of the favorite ways to refuse to allow positive statements of any kind--just point out that by expressing this single positive point at this time, one must logically be implying that all the other times were negative. And suddenly what I might have naively thought was a positive affirmation becomes a point of dissension and attack... Especially when framed in a simple polarized win/loss model of the world, it's easy to take even positive statements and turn them into negative attacks. E.g. "How dare you thank one person! By doing so, you automatically denigrate and attack everyone else! You also are accusing them of not being worthy of thanks at other times!" ["oops...did I catch you with my elbow again?" and as the cavorting figure sweeps a bow, one hand hits yet another person in the crowd while at least one person wrinkles their nose at the accidental mooning occuring behind our hero in his royal dress and someone else clips him with the edge of their load... and the crowd rolls on.] 2. The Pile-On [Let's do the time warp again!] Let's consider, just for a moment, what happens during an exchange on this list (or any other list). One member (you, for example) posts a message. Listserv gleefully sends out copies to all the members. (Note: due to reading habits, travel, etc., the receipt and reading of the messages may occur at various times. This "scattering" in time normally isn't too important, but it is a slight difference from...oh, public speeches, for example.) Anyway, one or more people can now respond to the message. And here, the multilogue varies significantly from meetings and other forums. In an oral forum, only one person can speak at a time. But on a list like this, as many people as want to can post practically simultaneously. So a single posting can cause multiple replies, which are queued up, copied, and sent out to the readership. Incidentally, here the multilogue splinters even farther. Suppose you've seen the original message plus two or three of the responses--and you post something into the mix. When I see your posting in the middle of a backwash, sideslip, or other flurry of posts related to this, the context has changed...and I may decide that you really don't understand what we're talking about! So I blast away, blithely unaware that the current mesh of controversy has wandered off into some other strangeness unrelated to what I thought I saw (from where I sit, based on what I've read of the ebb and flow). Let's call the multiplication of responses the "pile-on" phenomenon. Each person may only send one little response--but when we look at the collection, it appears as if EVERYONE is piling on! 3. Floods of Diversion, but not a response for me? [I see you shiver with antici...] A related, but slightly different effect, is what I call "wading flood waters of diversion." The tugs in other directions that occur from all the threads on the list and the massive number of individual life experiences going on around the list make it hard to get the attention of the list (or significant members of the list). Actually, given that we can't really tell whether someone is reading or not, it isn't possible to say whether we've really stirred something up--but there is a tendency to feel that unless someone responds, we are being IGNORED. And that's hard... So we post something. And no one says anything. And we feel frustrated, angry, upset...and post something that is a little farther out there, a little harsher in tone, a little nastier. And if someone responds to that--well, at least we got a response. (I'll leave it to the behavioralists among us to explain why such responses tend to encourage exactly the behavior we might have thought we were discouraging...) [...pation.] 4. Who all is out there? [Don't get strung out by the way I look.] Another factor in this tossed salad has to be the range or mix of participants. Young, old, varied backgrounds, various goals, hopes, and fears... communication is hard when the audience is fairly homogenous. [I'm just a sweet transvestite from transexual Transylvania.] We ain't exactly homogenized. 5. Where's the Goalposts? [The sword of Damocles is hanging over my head.] Yet another quirkiness of the multilogue lies in the apparent lack of "criteria for winning." In school, most of our communications were rewarded by the teacher declaring a winner. In debates, the judges declare the winners. In politics, we vote for the winner. However, in the multilogue, there often is no clear winner. Or maybe it would be more accurate to say that the whole group, at times, has a victory when the clarity, variety, and number of concepts, metaphors, and frames increases? [Whatever happened to Saturday night?] 6. A One-Note Symphony? [I really love that rock'n'roll.] One of the things I want to point to is an analogy to music. It's hard to even imagine a symphony orchestra made up all of one instrument playing one note repeatedly. This would be boring, to say the least. And yet, when we insist on agreement, when we try to dominate and control the exchange of the multilogue--aren't we in some ways trying to get everyone to play the same note? When we insist that THIS is the proper form, aren't we trying to get everyone to use our instrument, not theirs? I'd rather hear the concord of discord, the wonderful disharmony of an orchestra tuning up, than the mournful drone of solitary conquest or the tinny rattle of a Pyrrhic trophy overflowing with ashes... One of the phrases I've heard used recently (not on the list, in that other hazy part of my life) has been "tolerance of difference". The problem I have with that wording is that it makes it sound as if there is something wrong with difference, that we have to put up with it, have to suffer. I really honestly believe that difference, diversity, multiplicity--that vibrant growth of unique individuals--that whole approach is something to be joyful about. So, instead of "tolerance of difference," I'd suggest some of these phrases: fostering diversity a trust in difference a unity of diversity an understanding of distinction a concord of discord a diversified portfolio of opinions in other words, we're not just accepting difference and diversity, we're actively trying to promote it! 7. Two-thirds cooperation, one-fourth aggression, and some slop... [in just seven days, I can make you a man...] According to studies (the source is training on negotiation, a movie by a UCLA Law professor--although most of us can attest to its approximate truth from experience), the average American group (large enough, randomly selected, etc.) contains about two-thirds "cooperatives" and one-fourth "aggressives". So what? Cooperatives are the folks who like to "get it all out on the table" and then "we'll talk about it." They tend to assume that the other person is honest, willing to compromise--they expect that they are looking in a mirror. Aggressives, on the other hand, are "playing the game close to their vest" and "keep an ace up their sleeves." They tend to assume that the other person has a hidden agenda, and that everyone is out to get as much as they can--they are looking in the mirror, too, but "you can't go by appearances." The fun part, for negotiation training, comes when you consider the three possible matchups. When cooperatives meet, they share information and quickly come to an equitable resolution. When aggressives meet, it may take a bit longer, but the resolution is likely to be relatively reasonable. When cooperative and aggressive meet, though, the fireworks start. The cooperative offers a little information, and the aggressive jumps on them. The aggressive pushes for a little extra, and the cooperative gives more than is needed. An experienced cooperative may block and short-cut all the aggressive's moves, but there is never a response that the cooperative can recognize as getting ready to "come to the table." In most cases, there will not be a resolution. And in many cases where there is a resolution, it isn't a good one. And in almost all cases, the negotiators are angry and upset with "that guy who doesn't know how to play the game." Note that BOTH the cooperative and the aggressive negotiators come away with the impression that the other person isn't acting right. Now, consider what happens in the multilogue, where many people are participating, with some mix of cooperatives and aggressives (and NONE of them USDA labeled so that we know right away which group they belong to...). The cooperatives are busily putting cards on the table, giving away their secrets, and otherwise being "up-front" about participating. The aggressives are trying to figure out what the angle is, what is going on, and how do I win this game? I think multilogues must be terribly frustrating for aggressives... 8. Some possible approaches to living with multilogues [A hot groin and a triceps.] These are some of my notions about ways to work with the multilogue: 1. Be aware of the "pile-on" effect--and don't confuse the number of responses with an intentional attack. 2. Be wary of the flood of diversion--sometimes silence doesn't mean you're being ignored, it just means there is a lot happening. 3. Be conscious of the range and variety of your audience. Don't assume they are just like you--some of us aren't. 4. Be conscious of your own desires to win, and consider it a victory if you have expressed yourself clearly. Consider it a championship when others ask you questions--it means they are thinking about it! 5. Foster diversity, and help us build a strong diversified portfolio of opinions. And mostly, at every point, remember that the other participants are individuals who deserve respect and thanks for helping. thanks tink