Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 22:48:10 EST From: "nose in the books..." Subject: Re: [WRITERS] Tech: ode definition question On Tue, 24 Mar 1998 11:32:44 PST, susannah queried: :) :) Hi again everyone! :) If someone can define Ode for me, I will write An Ode to Bullshit :) and Hogwash just for the list. :) Susannah. According to Literary Terms: A Dictionary by Karl Beckson and Arthur Ganz, p. 184... "ode: In English, a lyric poem of some lenght, serious in subject and dignified in style. The term, now loosely used, has lost any necessary reference to the odes of the Greek poet Pindar, to whom the form is usually traced. Originally an ode was a choral song to be sung and danced at a public occasion, such as the celebration of a victory in the Olympic games. The stanzas were arranged in groups of three. The strophe was sung while the chorus moved in one direction, the antistrophe, which had the same metrical form, while it moved in another, and the epode, which had a different form, as it stood still. Pindaric odes in English are rare; an example is Thomas Gray's 'The Progress of Poesy.'" "An ode in which the stanzas, or verse paragraphs, are irregular in rhyme scheme and in the number and length of the lines is called a 'Cowleyan' or 'irregular' ode. ... Examples are ... Wordsworth's "Ode: Intimations of Immortality," ... The Horatian ode, so called from the Roman poet Horace, is one in which each stanza follows the same metrical pattern. ... Keats's 'Ode to a Nightingale.' " So there you go, you can do a Pindaric ode (strophe, antistrophe, and epode), a Cowleyan ode, or a Horatian ode. and all in honor of Bullshit and Hogwash? (does this have something to do with the muddy feet of the gods again? I swear I'm going to get them a welcome mat and teach them how to wipe their feet before they come in here...) tink