Date: Thu, 6 Mar 1997 10:43:37 EST From: did I say that? Subject: Re: TECH: Fictional Places aaaah...my apologies if I gave the impression that setting wasn't important. That's not what I'm getting at. Can I try again? Suppose that our pet writer puts two descriptions into the grinder. One is of a real setting which the writer knows but we don't. The other is of a fictitious setting which we also don't know. [I.e., I'm not talking about conflicts with our direct knowledge, or even our body of shared knowledge. Both settings are "new" to us as readers.] When we read the two descriptions, is there anything in the descriptions (given that our writer has done an equally good job with both) which will identify the "real" one or the "fictitious" one? Yes, there are parts of our "shared reality" which the descriptions should match--you and I both know something about the weather in California. And in fact I (as writer) must be careful to avoid tripping over the boundaries of your knowledge--for example, setting a story in the desert in Japan would probably not work for most Americans, unless I spend some time telling you about Tottori and the great sand dune there. [and if I happen to sneak in an extra small town along the coast, with a fish market and all the other fine details to make it live in your mind--what are the odds of you ever finding out that I made it up "out of whole cloth"?] It's a quirky point, really. For more details, see The Social Construction of Reality by Peter L. Berger and Thomas Luckmann (1966). The main point being simply that for masses of what we think we know, the truth is that we only have experienced it "at a distance" through the descriptions and representations of media. I might not consider a story setting in Africa "real" because it conflicts with the collection of stuff I have been exposed to about Africa--and if I went there and looked, I could discover that the setting was completely accurate, my knowledge was just wrong. tink