Changing Concepts of Democracy
Friday, May 8, 1998
1:45-3:45 pm
Speakers: Lawrence Grossman and Michael Schudson
Moderator: Henry Jenkins
[These are edited summaries, not complete transcripts.]
Henry Jenkins: All notions of democracy assume an informed and
participatory citizenry, and that means
discussion of democracy must include
a discussion of media. Just as the
emergence of the American republic was bound
up with information technologies -- with the
printing press, with the pamphleteer and the rise of
partisan newspapers -- so digital media
has sparked new thinking and discussion
about democracy. It seems important to begin
our conference by considering what we mean by
the term democracy and how me might think
about its emergence historically.
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[The complete text of Lawrence Grossman's paper is also available.]
Lawrence Grossman: Technological changes are
transforming our political system, creating a
new "electronic republic" -- a hybrid
form that adds elements of direct electronic
democracy to America's two-hundred year-old
representative republic.
The Internet has the potential to
give individual citizens a seat at the table
where major political decisions are weighed.
But can the citizens of this emerging electronic
republic be trusted to hold up their end in
helping to craft sound public
policy decisions when the people's ignorance of
many key issues is profound, and their
interest in government is sporadic. An
ignorant, impassioned and disengaged majority
can make terrible mistakes about
major life and death issues.
The keypad ballot permits "voting" as often
as any elected official wants to know what the
public thinks. Press 1 to vote for candidate
A, press 2 to vote for candidate B, press 3 if
you think we should go to war, press 4 if you
think we should stay out, press 5 if you want
more information, press 6 if you want to
suggest which targets to bomb. Will it come
to that? Unofficially, we have already reached
that stage, in continuous electronic polling and focus group
interviews.
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As new electronic tools enable direct
participation in decision-making, it is essential
to use those tools to equip the public
with the knowledge that will enable
them to make reasoned, informed political
decisions. But our present national
telecommunications policy does virtually
nothing to encourage the electronic media to
operate in the public interest, beyond requiring
three hours a week of educational programming for kids.
We need an entirely new
telecommunications policy for the digital age to serve the
public interest. We must provide for a parallel, powerful,
well-financed not-for profit, public
telecommunications system that will operate
along side the private, commercial
system. This system should become our civic
center, our source of lifelong learning, our
educator, our vital information provider, our
arts center.
The new public policy I have in
mind would bring about a great interactive
multimedia public telecommunications network
designed to serve all of the people, run by an
alliance of universities,
public library systems, museums, arts and
science academies as well as such
national non-profit institutions as the
Library of Congress, the Smithsonian and
Public Broadcasting.
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The commercial marketplace will certainly not
finance this electronic freeway. But Congress has a
brilliantly successful precedent to follow
here. It should use as an example the
Land Grant Colleges Act of 1862, which
sold off hundreds of thousands of acres of
public land to finance our public state
universities.
We are now at a time when our society can earn
a vast public dividend from
the commercial use of the publicly-owned broadcast
spectrum. At least a portion
of the proceeds of the spectrum auctions should be used to
create a public telecommunications trust fund.
This fund could be used to
serve the essential needs of a civilized
society and an informed democracy by helping
to raise the level of public discourse and the
quality of public decision making. It is
essential that we adopt some policy to move in
this direction before its too late.
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[The complete text of Michael Schudson's paper is also available.]
Michael Schudson: Digital media may make it
more difficult to think about democracy
coherently because they seem to promise that the concept of the informed
citizen can finally be realized. If the
digital media are to be integrated into a new
democracy, they must be linked to a serious
understanding of democracy and citizenship. We require, though, more
than a recycling of the old notion of the informed
citizen. Our American
history reveals four distinct versions of
democratic citizenship that have been
influential, and any vision of how digital
media might enhance democracy must take
account of all four.
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- This country began with a Democracy of
Trust, in which citizens voted for esteemed
leaders of sound character and good family,
deferring to a candidate's social pedigree
more than siding with his policy preferences.
Today, we still find it useful to vote for
the solid citizen.
- A Democracy of Partisanship evolved later,
emphasizing the parties and other
institutions which are still useful today for
mediating between private individuals and
public governing bodies.
- A Democracy of Information arose in the
Progressive Era, as the
center of political gravity shifted from parties to
voters. A new type of ballot asked voters to
"choose among alternatives" rather than to
perform an act of loyalty or affiliation with
a group. This is the origin of our notion of
the "informed citizen" -- the voter whose informed understanding
enables her or him to choose public officials and
policies at the ballot box.
- A Democracy of Rights has emerged in recent
decades, as the courtroom was added to the
voting booth as a locus of civic
participation. The defense of rights will also
continue to be an crucial part of democracy
in the future.
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I propose a reconstituted democracy of
information in which the obligation of
citizens to know enough to participate
intelligently in governmental affairs should
be understood as a "monitorial" obligation.
A monitorial citizen scans (rather than reads) the
informational environment to be alerted on a
wide variety of issues for a variety of ends.
Consider an analogy: it is fun to go camping and to be
able to take care of one's every need for a
few days, but most people turn on the stove
rather than rub two sticks together on a daily
basis. Why do we expect people to be political
backpackers in public life? How much of the
obligation to be knowledgeable about politics
can citizens relinquish without doing violence
to their democratic souls? There is surely a
line of willful ignorance that, once crossed,
crosses out democracy. On the other hand, in
most areas of our lives, we have a division of
labor between expertise and self-help that
gives credit to both. In politics, we should
also have plausible aims that balance citzenly
competence with specialized expert resources.
The quest for a language of public life that
reconciles democracy and expertise is a task
that merits renewed attention. As we have
discussions about a wired nation as if every
citizen should be his or her own expert who
communicates directly with political
representatives without benefit of mediating
institutions, I leave you with those two
words---expertise and institutions. I believe
that any notion of democracy in the digital
age is going to have to find a place for both of them.
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Discussion Highlights
Doug Schuler: I agree that not everybody can
know everything about every issue, but no
politician can know everything either.
Legislators are passing laws all the time, and
often they don't know anything about what
they're doing. I think it is a huge mistake
to say, "Well, let's just rely on them".
Michael Schudson: My claim is that we need to
find a place for expertise, but I agree that
expertise can be found in a variety of places.
The notion of "expertise" itself might be
democratized, but I'm just wary of condemning
expertise because it's not democratic. It is
democratic. It is the form of cultural
authority that is most democratic because
anyone has potentially access to some kind of
expertise.
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Bernard Frieden: Mr. Grossman, you gave a very
persuasive account of a number of trends in
state and local politics that have had the
effect of weakening the role of elected
representatives and giving citizens a more
direct voice. But did the electronic media
really cause this, or were they at hand to
facilitate trends already under-way?
Lawrence Grossman: They were certainly not
the total cause. But the electronic media
have made it possible to poll public opinion
on a daily basis. The one modification I
might make to Michael Schudson's smart
formulation is that expertise and the
monitoring public are intertwined and
influence each other. The monitoring function
is not just one of voting every two years or
four years, but ought to involve a daily monitoring of
substance in between elections, which is a
radical change from the way democracy used to
operate.
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Yaron Ezrahi: May I suggest a slight re-framing
of the concept of
"monitoring citizen". How is the perception
of the government changed by adding the
dimension of the Internet? Obviously, a
relatively small group of people can know so
much more than everybody else by simply using
the Internet competently. How does the
addition of an elite of extremely well-
informed citizens create anxiety to the
government in terms of its transparency? It
seems to me, that what has been changed over
time is not so much the idea of the monitoring
citizens but the technology of monitoring and
its distribution of power.
Michael Schudson: I think the intensity of
what a small stratum can know on particular
issues is increased by the Internet. What's
most interesting might be whether the relative
power of organized interest groups may be
changed by this.
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John Allen: Lawrence Grossman said that we should not
surrender control completely to the
marketplace to determine what happens in
information technology because it wouldn't
produce the civic outcomes that we want. But
the prevailing wisdom is that because the
technology is changing so quickly, one has to
leave control to the marketplace because only
there do you get the kind of de-centralized,
rapid response that you need to make good use
of resources. I'm interested in hearing you
address that and how you think the system that
you sketched for us would overcome
that problem.
Lawrence Grossman: I'm a great fan of the
marketplace, but it is not everything. You
need institutions and organizations to deal
with things that the marketplace cannot deal
with effectively. The marketplace is judged
by the one, simple criteria of whether you
make more money this year than last year?
There are many other values and judgments of
importance that are essential to equality and
democracy. The marketplace should not be
expected to take care of those needs. And in
this country, our electronic communications
media largely ignore this whole other aspect.
Those values and needs have always needed subsidy;
they always will.
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Roger Hurwitz: The Web is rapidly changing, and we see a situation where
there are these same patterns of media concentration and
quality production requiring increasing
expenditures of money to make the message
flashy and enticing to the eyeballs, which
is similar to what happened to
radio and television and other previous media.
The raising of the threshold of communication
creates problems.
Also, the various definitions of democracy have considerable
design implications. For example, a system to
support the monitorial citizen will look at a
stream of incoming information and take action
dependent upon certain critical values of that
stream of information, perhaps differently
from a national information utility that will
support the deliberation and discussion that
Lloyd Morrisett talked about earlier today.
There have been experiments involving large, participatory,
on-line meetings that found that multi-
topic conversations requiring people to
weigh in on every issue produce overly complex and unwieldy
outcomes. But there
are also some experiments that show that local
expertise can be built up and that, as Yaron
Ezrahi points out, the ability of people who
participate in these interactive forums to reach out and get
relevant information does augment the
monitoring and the informed-citizen
capability. So I think what these new media can do
should not be minimized in light of what
previous media have failed to do.
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Nolan Bowie: In regards to the suggestion
that experts would somehow make democracy
better, whom do you think the experts should be
and in what areas should we rely upon them?
It seems to me that the most important things
are democratic values, and I'm not sure where
you would go to find the expertise for that.
Also, would the experts be democratically selected,
would they have a constituency, and to whom
would they be accountable? Independent
government agencies such as the FCC, the
Federal Election Commission, the Department of
Education, the National Telecommunications and
Information Administration--all are composed
of experts. On the other hand,
the Congressional Office of Technology
Assessment, where experts studied the social,
political, economic and cultural impacts of
new technologies, was dissolved because the
government saw no need for such expertise.
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Michael Schudson: My claim was that, in
contemporary democracy, we have to find ways
of reconciling expertise with democratic
participation. I would not claim that we have
to turn our politics over to the experts. One
interesting study of decision-making in
Congress said showed that they rely on one
another; they turn to other experts among
themselves. They don't get informed on every
issue; they can't. But I don't have an answer
to your deeper question about who's an expert,
who decides, how are experts made accountable.
There are lots of complicated issues there.
Lawrence Grossman: The separation between the
expert and the ordinary citizen is no longer a
separation that anybody can count on. Anybody
has access to all kinds of information through
the Internet, which is eroding the institutions
that we used to revere, whether it's
government, medicine, law or even religion.
One of the real changes that's going on is a
merging of expertise and ordinariness, with a
lack of a demarcation which we used to take
for granted. Certainly, the rise of the
Internet has made that possible.
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Lloyd Morrisett: I wonder if you would
comment on the idea of a "contractual
democracy." So many of our relationships,
as opposed to 50 years ago, are now being
defined by contract more precisely and in more
areas of life than ever before. Do you see
the rise of the contract as a mechanism of
defining relationships that will be important in
defining our notion of democracy?
Michael Schudson: That is another product of
contemporary developments in democracy, and I
think it's an appropriate one.
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David Thorburn: I'd like to conclude with a
brief anecdote connected to our larger theme.
This conference was advertised on the Internet
through the Media In Transition website. I
received an email registration from a Californian who
wrote: "I'm not sure I can attend
your conference, but I very much hope to, even
though I'm an eighth grader in San Diego."
Now I do not see any eighth-grader here, so I
take it he did not make the conference. But I
think it is signifies something of the democratic
potential of the Internet that an event advertised
on our website here in Cambridge should reach across the
country to civic-minded eighth-graders.
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