Master Aleksandr Ruslanovich and Lady Morwenna Westerne :
We prefer to "err late" in giving awards. It's better for the recipient
when the reaction from the populace "She/he is so deserving! About
time!" and not simply a shrug and polite applause.
The polling award system is often extremely slow, which can be
frustrating for recipients and bestowers alike. We have no intention of
overhauling the baronial award system, but would like to supplement it
by giving personal tokens to deserving gentles. By doing so, we hope to
both bring recognition on some of the overlooked citizens of the barony,
and also to encourage others within the barony to give tokens of their
own, rather than waiting for "official" recognition.
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Mistress Caitlin Davies :
We need to do two things about this. First, the orders need to
accelerate the decision process -- it should not take 14-18 months as it
can in some cases now. The orders should meet more often, and the poll
process be sped up.
Second, we need more ways to acknowledge people's contributions beyond
considering them for the Daystar, Moon, or Perseus. This can be
anything from tokens, to honorary titles or privileges, to attendants
for a day, to championships, public thanks....
In general, I prefer to err a little early, especially for the kind of
person I see growing in the role after the award has been given. The
right kind of person to give an award to early is the kind who will
continue to learn, to teach, to administer, to improve their martial
skill, to become more personally mature and wise. And this is the kind
of person most deserving of awards anyway.
Master Justin du Coeur :
That last point deserves some clarification. The system is reasonably
effective when it works well: if someone gets an award at just the right
time, it feels quite good. But if you get it early, it feels kind of
hollow, and if you get it late, it's easy to wind up a tad bitter about
it.
I've been through both sides of this. My AoA was so late (after almost
six years of heavy involvement) that I went all the way through the
bitter phase and came out the other side with a bit of perspective. And
my Laurel was so early (only about three years after the AoA) that I've
always been slightly disappointed that I didn't really feel I deserved
it when it came. (Had it been a year or so later, I probably would have
been a lot happier about it.)
The result is that I do what I can do remove the focus from awards. When
someone new is starting out, if they seem to be somewhat "merit-badge"
focused, I try to encourage them to instead concentrate on doing what
they like, and let the awards come when they may. I tend to point out
the fact that the system is highly subjective, and there's a fair amount
of just-plain-luck in when they come. Basically, I try to impart some of
that perspective, to help fend off the bitter edge if an award comes
late.
Now, all that said, much though I sometimes wish the SCA's award model
didn't exist, it's a fact of life, and one that isn't going to go away.
I therefore do what I can to hit awards "on the mark", when they seem to
really be due. I don't actually have a simple answer to erring early or
late; over time, I've gradually moved towards trying to understand the
person involved, and erring accordingly. If they're likely to get bitter
if the award is late, I'll tend to err early; if they're relatively
self-directed and self-critical, I'll tend to err a little late, so that
they appreciate it when it comes.
Now Carolingia is a somewhat special case, since we traditionally take
the idea of accepting people in by consensus of the Order much more
strongly than the Kingdom does. If I wound up Baron, I'd probably tend
towards the traditional model of how the awards work. We don't require a
unanimous vote of the order any more, but I think I'd shoot for it when
possible. (Actually, as I recall the original Charter, it didn't require
unanimity so much as disclosure -- if the vote wasn't unanimous, the
candidate had to be told quietly in advance, so they had the opportunity
to decline if they felt it would be an issue.)
When we rewrote the Charter to remove the requirement for unanimity, one
of the views expounded was that it's the B/B's responsibility, in the
face of a "no" vote, to talk to the person so voting and understand
their objection. If it's clearly a matter of simple personal bias, or
not understanding the candidate's works, or simply unreasonably high
standards, then it's appropriate to override the vote. But it's a
serious matter, and I think the B/B has a particular responsibility to
think carefully about it.
In general, the Order's opinion has a much stronger influence here than
in the Kingdom at large. The implication there is that the B/B has a
responsibility to *lead* the Orders, rather than just ruling them. The
King can simply listen to opinions and make up his own mind; the B/B
needs to encourage the Orders to give the awards at a level s/he feels
appropriate, since it's principally up to them.
Lord Diego Mundoz :
In bestowal, I prefer not to err, but if we must to err late.
Recipients are exemplars (though one might differ to what degree);
let that continue to be the case.
Lady Godith Anyon :
Lady Emmanuelle de Chenonceaux :
Master Seamus Donn :
Bear with me for a short digression. In Drachenwald the most argued over law was the requirements for entry into Crown Tourney. The main issue was that Americans
would come to Europe with the military, enter Crown Tourney, and win. There was a long period with no native monarchs which a major point of friction. Contrary to my
normal leanings, I was actualy against making the entrance requirements stricter (mainly in terms of length of residency). Firstly it is better to use repeated "foreign"
monarchs as an incentive to improve your fighting standard than to lower the bar by excluding people. Secondly, the American Military are inarguably part of Drachenwald.
And to create a rule specifically that excludes them (they are normally there for 3 year rotations, and strict residency rules would prevent any of them from entering) is not
fair.
So, in Carolingia we have the Boroughs. Borough folk are often here, do great service, and often leave before any gaining any award. Only to have to start over from the
bottom where they go. To see these people move on without recognition has caused me no end of consternation. I would dearly like to see this changed.
Let us be clear about one thing: awards do not cost money and they make people happy. True, to give them out casually would be inappropriate and "devalue" them, however
I still feel this is a very strong arugment in favour for "err early".
Sadly, the most appropriate award is the AoA which is determined at Kingdom level. The Baron only has influence, not control, of this. An alternative might be to establish a
"Foreign Office" that tracks where people have gone, and ensures that "letters of reccomendation" get passed on to appropriate people in their new home. I'm already trying
to do this for those gentles I have personally known. As Baron I might seek other's help.
Mistress Gwendolyn of Middlemarch :
I certainly have criticisms of the SCA's award system,
but I don't believe that would be reflected in how I
gave awards. Whatever I think of the award, the
recipient, or the giver, the giving of the award
should be treated as a very important, joyful thing
happening to a very important person. Giving awards is
certainly not the time for airing any criticisms. My
view is influenced by the fact that I, personally,
have had the experience of having awards I just
received denigrated, or the giver's competence
dismissed.
As far as the "err early or late" goes of course one
prefers to be "on time", and it really comes down to a
case by case basis, but I would prefer to "err early."
Lord Kali Harlansson of Gotland :
I think there are also some shortcomings that are inherent in the existing
award system. One of the serious ones is the inability to repeat an award:
as long as the Laurel recognizes depth of achievement in a field more than
breadth over several, for instance, then doing Manche-quality work in four
different fields still gets you only the one Manche you got in the first
field. I think there are other shortcomings in the order system of as well:
the overwhelmingly ubiquitous arts-martial arts-service tripartite division,
for example, and the love of "surprising" people with awards. (Come on, how
often in the First Middle Ages was a peer of the realm elevated to that rank
without knowing it well ahead of time?)
I would like the Coronet (whether that's me or anyone else) to look for other
ways to award the Carolingian orders more promptly and more often, and for
ways of extending recognition besides order membership. Badges of favor, for
instance, or less specific gifts from the Coronet can be meaningful
expressions of public recognition; the creation of a Baronial Guard or
Household, putting the best of the barony out in full view. Aquel and
Johanna began to do some of this; I would like to see it taken further.
Seigneur Jehan du Lac :
I know that awards are unevenly distributed. Some people labor long in
relative obscurity, and for some reason the recognition passes them by.
Others have a few enthusiastic friends in high places, and they are
recognized for what some would consider small achievements. The system
can't be made perfect. We can only try to be paying attention and notice
the quiet ones. It won't always happen -- sadly, I don't think they
award omniscience with the coronet.
As for which way to err, I can only strive for balance. If we "err
early" too often, it cheapens the award. To "err late" too often
discourages people. I don't have a policy that could be applied in all
situations, each case would have to be considered individually. I do
believe that an individual's comportment and courtesy are important
factors in any award, whether they are part of the official requirements
or not.
Master John McGuire :
What little bits I have control over, I try to keep as period as possible.
If I take an
apprentice, we have a contract and I follow that. I do not give a green
belt. When my
apprentice has mastered the basics and has reached the point that they are
researching
and starting to create their own works and start to teach others the basics,
I promote
them to Journeyman, particularly if they have done an initial masterwork.
I prefer to be slightly early rather than too late. Someone who feels that
it is slightly early
is often revitalized and tries to live up to the award, but if you are much
too late often the
person is slightly burnt out and does not appreciate it as much. Better
late than never
though.
Shi Hua Fu and Lady Yelizaveta Medvedeva :
Aquel and Johanna have made positive changes in the way baronial
awards are given, and they should be continued. As Principal of the
Perseus, Yelizaveta has personal experience with their award
philosophies, and admires them.
In general, we would prefer to "err early", provided there is enough
support from the order. We have seen how receiving an unexpected
award often makes people shine all the more from their desire to "live
up to it". They become more determined to be deserving, and become
excellent representatives of the group. In contrast, people who
receive the award "late" (in their own estimation/opinion) might not
be as encouraged to continue to grow. Some even develop a small sense
of resentment or resignation that can taint their enjoyment of the
recognition. Perfect award timing would be ideal, but in reality
that's very hard, so giving people a positive boost and a good feeling
would be preferable.
I have some criticism of the award system in Carolingia. I think it
takes far too long to acknowledge really cool contributions to this
barony using our three polled orders. Lately, the orders have been
meeting roughly annually, and the process of polling an order takes a
month or two, so it's far too easy for superb arts, great martial
skill, or long service to slip aside and be forgotten or dismissed from
sheer elapsed time. Or for someone who was reviewed by an order as a
candidate to watch, or wait, to leave or drop out before ever receiving
earned honors.
I'm probably one of the most strident critics of the Society's award
system. It wasn't ever thought through; it just sort of grew. The result
is a system that has a few really serious flaws:
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There are days when I look at the Society's awards/rank
system and really, really want a magic wand, that we might have a
model that something that resembles something from _somewhere/-when_
in period.
But as long as we have such a system, if it raises
certain expectations, they should be met. If the AoA is an indicator
of adulthood and belonging on a level with the high school diploma
in the mundane world, it should not take longer to get an AoA in
Carolingia than to get a college degree. I'd rather err on the side
of a little too early than a lot too late, and a little too late
than a lot too early.
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Awards given late can feel like a pittance given to quiet the disconent, an award given early can inspire people to strive to be worthy of the honor they have
been given. An AoA given for work that deserves higher recognition devalues the award as much as any award given early.
The SCA award system is an imperfect system. But I cannot think of a system that isn't similarly flawed. So my commitment is to work within the system
rather than to change it. I've even gone so far as to form a household with this as its charter (see below).
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The SCA award system has its problems. Some of these
problems include the lack of peerage level skill
awards (or orders) for fencing and archery, the messy
nature of orders and awards being combined, and the
low response level of pollings. I believe that
Carolingia has the right idea having one martial
order, one arts and sciences order, and one service
order.
I prefer not to err at all. I do believe that an award recognizes a level
already attained, which I guess would be interpreted as preferring to "err
late" by those who use that dichotomy. However, I feel we've been giving
awards much *too* late in recent years - I would like to see the Coronet
doing what it can to meet with the orders more often. I'd like to find a way
of expediting the polling process as well, but it's not as easy to do that
without cutting corners that might leave something important out - as an
order member, I've been very leary of changes in polling procedures that
seemed to save time by cutting out important discussion. (I'm also very
aware that the principals of all three Carolingian orders are also candidates
for the coronet; I'll be interested to find out how they answer this
question.)
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The SCA award system is what it is, an irrevocable part of our culture,
and I do not see it changing in my lifetime. If I could do it over
again, I would strive to recreate more historical models, but given what
we have I believe in making the best of it. That being said, it isn't so
far off. Some historical orders voted in new members, many represented
"awards" in that they were honors that gave people incentive to serve
the king/pope/whoever, and most had few responsiblities besides dressing
up in their ceremonial outfits and having dinner once a year.
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That our title system is as badly bent as it is and that we are starting to
look like the
boyscouts with merit badges, belts, baldrics and scarves, irks me a little.
While we
are getting so much better in so many areas with better research and more
period
items, our awards remain less period and they keep breeding.
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In general, the SCA award system is flawed, but months and years of
debate haven't solved the problem yet. Indeed, it may never change
substantially. In the meantime, the system needs to be worked with.
There are some awards given after one simply writes a letter to the
royalty to ask it be done, yet people grumble that someone they know
isn't receiving the recognition they deserve. The question then is
what has been done to try to direct the attention of Their Majesties
to the person? We're afraid we have little patience to those who have
such a simple solution presented to them as writing a letter or
sending and email and yet refuse to make the effort. Odds are good
then that they will never be satisfied, no matter the result.
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