What do you feel the Barony does well? :
Mistress Gwendolyn of Middlemarch :
We provide a good environment for activities and events to occur. The barony places minimal restrictions on who can autocrat an event, what type of event they can do, or what activities can occur at that event. As a result we have a tradition of many interesting events covering a wide range of activities.
The guild structure provides a good support structure for many arts and science activities. Although individual guilds and activities may go through cycles of activity and inactivity, in general there is plenty to do. Almost anyone who wants to organize an activity or meeting, can. And Carolingia supports and produces performance arts like no where else.
I think Carolingia has a reasonable balance in its "patriotic fervor" if you will. People can choose to act as Carolingians and support Carolingia as an entity, or choose to act independently and can make that choice for each activity. It is not an all or nothing proposition.
Carolingia provides an environment for independent growth that is relatively rare in the SCA. You do not have to be a member of a household, apprenticed to someone, or squire to someone in order to do things here or in order to receive recognition. Now households, squires, apprentices and proteges can be excellent and useful things, but I like it that it is not *required* in order to be someone in Carolingia. Many of the "homegrown" Laurels (ie. never apprenticed to someone) I know of come from Carolingia. Homegrown peers are unheard of in some other parts of the kingdom.
Due to Aquel and Johanna's hard work, I think that at the moment the barony is, for such a large group, a relatively welcoming and encouraging place. Aquel and Johanna demonstrate their personal interest in the people of the barony, especially those entering or leaving. I would like to see this welcoming and friendly attitude continue in the next baronial coronet(s).
In summary, I think Carolingia is a fabulous place to be and I love it here.
Theater is one of my own particular activities, and I've heard repeatedly over the years how other groups cannot conceive of doing full-length Shakespeare plays as SCA events, by and for SCA members, or of doing truly improvisational commedia dell'arte performances the way i Sebastiani do. The Waytes have attained a level of skill and professionalism that makes them set the standard across most of the kingdom (and beyond, via Pennsic). The Poulet Gauche strives for higher and higher levels of authenticity and total immersion each time it's held, and does so without leaving people behind but rather meeting the challenge of the rising bar. Carolingia was one of the first groups in the East to develop archery as a group activity, and still there are always Carolingians in the top of every kingdom archery list; similarly with thrown weapons (but you'd know that better than I). Hurley is a very recent example of an activity that (within Carolingia) came out of nowhere to becoming some people's main area of involvement, and to a level where we're challenging the people who developed it first.
It's not so much these activities in particular - and there are so many, many more (look, I left out dance as a Carolingian activity!) - but the *number* of them that most impresses me. Sure, individual activities wax and wane in number of participants and level of involvement, but there's always so many that are at a high level at any time. That's what makes Carolingia truly amazing, by my lights.
Mistress Gwendolyn of Middlemarch :
I think we can improve on the interest and pageantry of our courts. This is one of the things the Baronial coronet does have under its control. Court is important to both Kali and me. We desire interesting but reasonably efficient courts that have suitable amounts of pomp and circumstance and a certain theatrical element. I know this is somewhat vague, but we don't have a full plan ready to plug in. But we are willing to experiment.
There are a few things I would like to see improve that are partially or could be partially under the baronial coronet's control. These include a more regular or frequent meeting schedule for the baronial orders, an encouragement or return of some baronial social activities such as baronial pot lucks, baronial coronet at homes, etc. and a reexamination of the Champions/guards issue. (See the next question below.)
I can see some things already that the Coronet could do about it, that Gwendolyn and I would consider doing: regularly visiting all different groups, guild meetings, and practices - not just dropping in, but getting to know the people and the activity, and actively giving the participants a feeling of their context within the goings-on of the whole barony. Encouraging special events that get several different groups working together, like the ballet de cour at the February event. Encouraging guilds to hold "open houses," or some sort of function bigger and more open than a regular meeting / practice, but different from an in-persona baronial Event. Providing public recognition of activity through more means than the existing baronial Orders, especially in court. In general, using the position and prominence of the Coronet to promote synergy in many and different ways.
Mistress Gwendolyn of Middlemarch :
The ways to remedy the perception of Carolingians as snobby, stuffy, and insular are for Carolingians to visit other places and to lure those from other places into Carolingia. As baronial coronet, I would anticipate traveling quite a bit and representing Carolingia to other places. It would also be my duty to be as welcoming as possible to others when they visit Carolingia.
Carolingia does have a problem, a happy problem, in that we are difficult to compete with. I personally find our events more interesting and well run than most other places I have been. Problems occurs if we, as Carolingians, are perceived as setting ourselves up as the model for all to follow (or actually do try to tell others what to do, which has happened on occasion!). Any suggestions to others should be solicited, or offered extremely tactfully. Carolingians in general are a helpful lot; we just need to be tactfully helpful.
The most important thing the Coronet can do to alleviate these problems is to travel to neighboring events, not nessarily constantly but regularly, and (most important) *visibly* as Carolingians. With luck they will inspire others to travel with them: the best cure for the image problem would be Carolingians who are recognized as such, and who are having a good time Playing With Others. The second most important thing the Coronet can do is to recognize visitors who come to our events and to make them feel welcome; we do put on large and interesting events, and more people would be happy coming to them from out-barony if they didn't think they'd be ignored or looked down on.
If you could change three things about Carolingia (or Carolingians as a whole) what would they be? :
Mistress Gwendolyn of Middlemarch :
2. Space events more evenly. (I know we are working on this.)
3. More explicit appreciation of the work we do for each other.
1. The scheduling of events: We've made a deliberate effort over the past several years, and still we seem stuck with a boom-and-bust cycle. This makes it harder for us to retain new members ("Events are what it's all about; our next one is four and a half months away, and it's not a typical event") and for other groups to schedule around us (like one or two years ago when between Festival of Storytelling, Legends of Chivalry, and Falling Leaves Carolingia basically booked the month of September), and most important, makes it harder for us to put our best effort into every event and still have fun. I would get us onto a more evenly paced calendar if I could.
2. More cross-communication and interaction between groups: I am concerned by the tendency for some guilds (and other activity-based groups) to turn inward, to turn their participants into specialists. To a very real extent it's a natural consequence of factors which themselves are good things: having so very many activities going on, each being done at such a high level of proficiency. No one can do *everything*, and doing your own thing takes so much time. But it comes at a cost in community and fellowship, and if I could change the cost without losing the benefit, I would.
3. Recognition of achievement: There are more Carolingians than ever doing more cool stuff than ever, and our means of recognizing them are not keeping up. I want to find more ways of showing the barony's appreciation of the things that make us so great. See the question on the awards system for fuller development of this theme.
Mistress Gwendolyn of Middlemarch :
My personal views were formed back when this ethic was so universal, it wasn't even articulated. On the other hand, I recognize that the barony has changed since then, has grown so big that not everyone *could* work at any one event, even if they wanted to, and so it's not completely unreasonable to recognize some distinction between those who are doing a lot of work and those who aren't doing any. But then it can get sticky drawing a hard and exact line at which amount of work is worth the cost of admission. Speaking for myself, I would always pay; speaking for the barony, it is the autocrat's decision - ultimately they can do what they want, that's why we call them autocrats.
Mistress Gwendolyn of Middlemarch :
I certainly have criticisms of the SCA's award system, but I don't believe that would be reflected in how I gave awards. Whatever I think of the award, the recipient, or the giver, the giving of the award should be treated as a very important, joyful thing happening to a very important person. Giving awards is certainly not the time for airing any criticisms. My view is influenced by the fact that I, personally, have had the experience of having awards I just received denigrated, or the giver's competence dismissed.
As far as the "err early or late" goes of course one prefers to be "on time", and it really comes down to a case by case basis, but I would prefer to "err early."
I think there are also some shortcomings that are inherent in the existing award system. One of the serious ones is the inability to repeat an award: as long as the Laurel recognizes depth of achievement in a field more than breadth over several, for instance, then doing Manche-quality work in four different fields still gets you only the one Manche you got in the first field. I think there are other shortcomings in the order system of as well: the overwhelmingly ubiquitous arts-martial arts-service tripartite division, for example, and the love of "surprising" people with awards. (Come on, how often in the First Middle Ages was a peer of the realm elevated to that rank without knowing it well ahead of time?)
I would like the Coronet (whether that's me or anyone else) to look for other ways to award the Carolingian orders more promptly and more often, and for ways of extending recognition besides order membership. Badges of favor, for instance, or less specific gifts from the Coronet can be meaningful expressions of public recognition; the creation of a Baronial Guard or Household, putting the best of the barony out in full view. Aquel and Johanna began to do some of this; I would like to see it taken further.
Mistress Gwendolyn of Middlemarch :
I feel, strongly, that the "pay to play" name is both too flip and a grave misnomer to boot: regardless of membership, we pay to attend almost every event anyway [see next question for a completely different facet of this], and it is that money which pays for our "play". Anyone who comes to an event and pays the site fee, even if not a paid member, is "playing"; someone who sends in their money and gets a membership card, but doesn't come to events, isn't. Money sent to Milpitas doesn't get the feast cooked, the music played, or the pots scrubbed. The "play" depends entirely on local money and local volunteer labor.
Which is not to say the Corporation has absolutely no merits: local money doesn't pay for insurance, and volunteer labor won't save us from a lawsuit. On the other hand, there are other organizational models that can address these concerns. Add to that the secretive, deceitful, and patronizing way in which the Board acted in making that decision, and I take rather a dim and skeptical view of mandatory membership (my name for the policy).
That's my opinion. It's a strong one, but it's personal. Again I emphasize that, were I Baron, my opinion would not be any more pertinent than that of other Carolingians.
In your opinion, what is best thing about the Society? :
Mistress Gwendolyn of Middlemarch :
What do you personally think constitutes "politics"? Are all "politics" evil? :
Mistress Gwendolyn of Middlemarch :
Favorite "Magic Moment"? (More than one if you can't choose. :) :
Mistress Gwendolyn of Middlemarch :
And there are many, many more.
King Gyrth organizing pillow-fights at the rained-out Peace, saying it was in fulfillment of his coronation oath; the charge of the Western knights at Pennsic 6; Caryl and Asenath wading downstream in their shifts, herding rose petals; the long walk through the black woods to the parking lot at Legends at midnight, with just a candle-lantern; the jongleurs singing "Rosa Vernans" in Memorial Hall; the first sight of the fort on the field at Pennsic 30; the songs and the faces around many a campfire; single, one-armed combat on the bridge at Pennsic 15 (or so); Grendel's Arm at the Beowulf event. The memories keep coming, but I have to stop typing because I have five more questions to go.
What is the kindest thing you have ever seen in the Society? :
Mistress Gwendolyn of Middlemarch :
When I dislocated my shoulder at a tourney at Tufts in 1980, Aquel and Johanna drove me and Caryl to the HCHP clinic. They waited with us while the clinic took an unconscionably long time confirming it really was dislocated. They kept Caryl company while I was wheeled away and put to sleep for half an hour, and gave us a ride back to the Buttery. They didn't have to stay with us all that time - I obviously wasn't going to die, or anything - but they acted as though this was a perfectly natural way to spend the afternoon, and that there was absolutely nothing worth going back to the event for.
While I won't say this was the kindest thing I've *ever* seen done in the SCA, it set a high standard I've tried to live up to ever since.
What will you keep the same? :
Mistress Gwendolyn of Middlemarch :
I reiterate that court is important to us. We desire interesting but reasonably efficient courts that have suitable amounts of pomp and circumstance and a certain theatrical element. I know this is somewhat vague, but we don't have a full plan ready to plug in. No matter who ends up being the baronial head, there will be an adjustment period.
One thing I think Aquel and Johanna did particularly well and that I would strive to maintain is the personal interest they take in the people of the barony, especially those entering or leaving. The current baron and baroness are a welcoming and encouraging presence and I would like to see that continue.
What will you do differently? :
Mistress Gwendolyn of Middlemarch and Lord Kali Harlansson of Gotland :
Mistress Gwendolyn of Middlemarch :
I will only add that I think the baron and baroness should do what they can to encourage and maintain a vibrant and active barony. I think that is mostly done through some participation, encouraging people to do what they love, and providing an audience and interest when desired. Carolingia is one of the most fabulous places in the SCA in my opinion, and I love being here.
ditto.
I hope these answers help to give you some idea of who we are and what we'd be like as baron and baroness. If you have more questions, or want a fuller response to one of these, feel free to ask.
Mistress Gwendolyn of Middlemarch :
I think that Champions were instituted to attempt to bring martial prowess into focus in the barony, but it is my impression that there is something of a burden in sustaining the Champions we already have and reliably producing a successor.
I had a discussion with Jehan on this issue and he had the idea of establishing a guard made up of the different martial arts forms chosen by consultation. (And I definitely give credit to him for this guard idea.) This guard could have representatives of each of the martial forms practiced in the barony and essentially be a modification of the CRC that represents all the martial arts instead of one. Certainly all the candidates for the baronial coronet that I have spoken with have mentioned pageantry as one of their goals, and a guard certainly adds pageantry.
It's possible Carolingia could support both Champions and a guard. In any case, I think the issue of martial support is going to require some reevaluation by the incoming baronial coronet. The barony has demonstrated that particular martial activities benefit from the attention of the baronial coronet, but, if that attention is focused only in one area, then other martial activities suffer. I recognize the problem, but do not have a solution at this time. I think it is a problem that cannot be solved by the baronial coronet alone.
I do think it is important to recognize and encourage those of the barony who participate in and support our martial activities.
This explicitly does not mean we have any intention of going in and summarily eliminating the current Champion positions, or even radically shaking them up. More a matter of discussions with the various communities concerning their needs for support and visibility, how well the various champions meet these needs, what works and what's still not working yet, and matters like that - all so that we can set up this Guard structure (if we still think it's a good idea) to include or to complement the Champions structure in a way that works well for all concerned.
So to finally give a short answer to your question, I in general favor an inclusive "single structure" path, but I don't think I have a clearer view of a "big picture" than you do at this point.
Mistress Gwendolyn of Middlemarch :
But not that we want to increase the level of pageantry, processional, and precedence. On the contrary, there would definitely be times as well when we want to be informal and approachable, and a good way to signal that would be to release the entourage.
Mistress Gwendolyn of Middlemarch :
I do actually despise making phone calls. Obviously, I manage to do it. I certainly prefer email.
I'm sure it will be tiresome to constantly have more demands on my time than I could possibly meet. I certainly have difficulty *not* doing things I feel are my responsibility. So, again, I will have to pace myself and insure that I take time for myself. Being a parent has given me some experience at this.
Mistress Gwendolyn of Middlemarch :
Gwendolyn and I each have families, and therefore have certain outside commitments that are irreducible. On the other hand they are two separate families, and separate commitments, and the hope is that this will give us a little extra flexibility to help us meet the Coronet's demands on our attention.
Do you see anything preventing you from holding the post at least 4 years? :
Mistress Gwendolyn of Middlemarch :
So I'll answer your constituent's instead: Gwendolyn and I have no particular duration in mind. We do intend to stay in office more than two years (Fate willing, of course) - we believe we'd only really have found our style and be hitting our stride in our second year. On the other end, I gave up the seneschal's position after five years, and that felt about right, and Aquel & Johanna are giving up the Coronet after six, and *that* feels about right, so five or six years seems likely. BUT, anyone who comes around after 4 years 11 months and starts asking impertinent questions will suffer The Displeasure Of The Coronet (that's just Kali talking, not Gwendolyn, she'd never say anything like that).
What responsibilities do you feel the Baron/ess has to whom? :
Mistress Gwendolyn of Middlemarch :
The baronial coronet has a responsibility to the barony as a whole to devote a reasonable amount of time, attention, and effort to baronial activities and concerns, including giving the barony a focus of activity so that it can work together as a whole.
The Baron/ess also has a responsibility to him/herself and the barony to try to take care of his or her own well being.
Mistress Gwendolyn of Middlemarch :
Why do you think you'll be good? :
Mistress Gwendolyn of Middlemarch :
We have been active participants in the barony for many years and delight in many of the barony's activities. We have a desire to see Carolingia continue as an active and vibrant entity.
As parents we deal with "people issues" such as scheduling and negotiation on a regular basis, as well as soothing ruffled feathers, encouragement, listening and finding channels for skills. I think all of these are things the baronial heads may need to be able to do at some point. Of course, this is NOT something I think only parents can do; we just get a lot of practice at it.
And I repeat, we both have a strong theatrical background. You will hear us if we desire to be heard.
One feature of our slate that's unique among the ones standing for election: we are not a couple. We're married, but not to each other. Carolingia has not had a baron and baroness in this situation before, but it's been done several times at the royal level. The advantages are that family emergencies are much less likely to disrupt the Coronet's activity, since we come from two separate families. Further, we will have that extra bit of stamina and stability because we are not each other's only source of emotional support - we believe that makes us a little less likely to burn out than a Coronet pair who were relying only on each other for support.
And a third point: we have both got a strong history in theater, so we believe we will have a feel for how to effectively "stage" court, how to keep people's attention, or to sense if we're losing it. Of great importance, we both know how to project, so people can *hear* what's going on in court.
Now, is that enough to make us "good"? Up to you, and the barony, to decide.
Do you think you will be able to be in tune with all the different aspects of the barony? :
Mistress Gwendolyn of Middlemarch :
We plan to be reasonably accessible and active.
We intend that one or both of us will attend every Council meeting; continue most of the activities we currently participate in (though possibly a little less intensively); attend sessions of other activities that have regular meetings - we'll be attending such meetings regularly, but it may feel only occasional to the members of those groups, there being so many; perhaps the occasional Open House; and otherwise being accessible to anyone who wants to communicate, whether by phone, (e-)mail, or just talking face to face.
Mistress Gwendolyn of Middlemarch :
I anticipate developing a group of people willing to essentially be the baronial coronet's staff and entourage over time. Some of these people would be officers of the barony, Golden Gryphon Pursuivant for one, others would be more personal help. I'm sure this will take time to develop.
I was once in the House of the Great Bell; while it never formally dissolved, it did scatter to three coasts and I'm the only one left in Carolingia. I did swear fealty to Sir Patri, but he's not very active either. I don't anticipate either of those relationships would be a factor if I were Baron.
(I was also one of Vissevald's thegns many years ago - Thegn 1A in fact.)
What part(s) of history interests you most (right now)? :
Mistress Gwendolyn of Middlemarch :
Mistress Gwendolyn of Middlemarch :
- Most borough members joined the SCA here, and of those who already joined, most are new to Carolingia; to that extent, the Coronet's general duty of welcoming newcomers is all the more important among the borough populace.
- Being attached to mundane institutions, the boroughs are geographically and demographically bounded groups; the Coronet's obligation to keep all groups in Carolingia in touch with each other and involved with the barony as a whole applies especially to them.
- The boroughs represent transient populations: most students are in and out of college in four years; if they didn't join the SCA first thing (I know I didn't) then they're only part of Carolingia for two or three years. The Coronet's duty to notice individuals, to help them connect and to recognize their achievements, is the more urgent for borough members.
The single most important thing we could do to address these duties would be to make regular visits to meetings of the boroughs - which we would be making to all the guilds, practices, cantons, and other such groups anyway - bearing these special circumstances in mind as we do. Then from these regular contacts could grow other things to meet these needs, things to encourage and facilitate involvement with more of the barony: co-hosting other group meetings at the borough at a higher level than just providing room space, for example - I'm thinking especially of the way Felding has hosted Calligraphers' Guild and Low Company meetings in the past - and connecting borough members with particular interests with guilds and individuals outside the borough interested in the same things.
Furthermore, the boroughs take on the majority of the barony's recruitment work. During demo season, the Coronet's duty to represent the barony to itself means they would have to working closely with the boroughs to present a good-looking and well-defined image of the barony, so that new members' first impressions are both favorable and accurate.
Do you feel the Baron/Baroness has any particular duties to newcomers? If so, what? :
Mistress Gwendolyn of Middlemarch :
Kali and I have also discussed the idea of the baronial coronet setting aside a half hour or so at each event to meet newcomers and visitors, discuss Carolingia with them, and point out people that the newcomers or visitors may wish to talk to about specific activities. This would give newcomers an opportunity to meet and talk to the baronial coronet(s) as well as get some valuable information, without putting as much pressure on the newcomer as an introduction in court might.
How have you interacted with the boroughs in the past year? :
Mistress Gwendolyn of Middlemarch :
When I was Mistress of A&S (long ago) I spent much more time at various boroughs, going to most demos and recruitment meetings and participating in many A&S demos.
Boroughs are very important in Carolingia as a major source for recruitment and as centers of activity. I think the baronial coronet should do what lies in its power to become familiar with the members of the boroughs and help integrate the boroughs with the rest of the barony.
Mistress Gwendolyn of Middlemarch :
If I could find someone who knows the person, and that someone is willing to talk to the person, then I would suggest that the someone have a chat with the person in the very near future and possibly take them to visit Gold Key to see if there is any loaner garb at the event.
If no one knows this person or is willing to talk to this person, then I would introduce myself to them and ask about their interests in the SCA. Then I would point out that some attempt at medieval or Renaissance clothing is expected at an event. If he or she still looked friendly, I would expound on the virtues of tabards and t-tunics. Then I would tell him or her that we would appreciate it if he or she would make the attempt to wear some type of garb. If they still looked friendly, I would offer to accompany them in search of loaner garb.
On the other hand, if I've been seeing them at more closed events where they evidently paid a site fee and otherwise consciously chose to come in, I'd be less likely to come straight over. I'd probably ask around a little first, see if anyone knows who this person is, whether anyone else has ever seen them in garb (maybe I've only seen them coming to or leaving the event), whether anyone else had already talked to them in the manner suggested above. I'd likely still approach them and engage them in talk, but just what tack I'd take would depend on what I'd learned from the asking-around stage.
I would likely do things a little differently as Baron. If they seemed shy and genuinely unaware, I'd worry lest having The Baron Of Carolingia approach them might be intimidating (gentle and lovable though I am); I'd probably ask a known responsible and discreet friend (member of entourage?) to go and try my first approach. On the other hand, the more it seemed that they had already had some exposure to our mores but just didn't care, the more likely I'd be to approach them in person - still open and friendly, but letting them know that collective appearance really does matter to us.
I can't give a clearer answer, it would depend a lot on the situation.
Mistress Gwendolyn of Middlemarch :
As far as Champions in general go, there certainly has to be a sizeable community of people active in that martial form before a Champion is a sustainable and viable position. Ideally, it should not be a burden to choose the next one. It is my impression that there is something of a burden in sustaining the Champions we already have and reliably producing a successor.
I had a discussion with Jehan on this issue and he had the idea of establishing a guard made up of the different martial arts forms chosen by consultation. (And I definitely give credit to him for this guard idea.) I think this idea has merit and the added advantage of providing an opportunity to give recognition to those reliable work horse types that may never be at the top of their martial form in terms of "scoring" ability, may not win tournaments regularly, but are dependable, reliable, people that help support and sustain a martial activity.
It's possible Carolingia could have Champions and a guard. In any case, I think the Champion issue should be examined and reevaluated by the incoming baronial coronets.
I just want to say that I do think it is important to recognize and encourage those of the barony who participate in and support our martial activities.
Considering my dislike of particularism (see above), I'm a little leery of creating too many different baronial champions too easily. Gwendolyn and I have talked about looking for other ways of recognizing and celebrating the best of different activities, perhaps something more like a baronial "household," using the word in its more historical sense - the term is so firmly locked into a different SCAdian meaning that we'd probably have to call it something else.
What can you provide to the Baronial Fencing community? :
Mistress Gwendolyn of Middlemarch :
A share of my time, energy, and attention.
What can the Baronial Fencing community provide for you? :
Mistress Gwendolyn of Middlemarch :
Education about fencing in general, fencing issues in the barony, and advice.
As the fencing community grows and matures in the Barony, what role to you see it playing? :
Mistress Gwendolyn of Middlemarch :
I certainly would like to see the fencing community more involved in the barony as a whole, but I know too little to describe a role for them at the present time.
That being said, I find fencing a fascinating and worthwhile activity that deserves support and encouragement. If I were one of the baronial coronets, it would be my duty and privilege to learn about fencing and its role and potential in the barony.
I have no doubt that I would become aware of other roles, more specific to the situation of the fencing community, after getting greater familiarity with their interests and activities, and after listening to their own ideas.